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Doug Yule's Velvet Underground
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w***@gmail.com
2006-06-28 21:50:09 UTC
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I do have this - as well as the double-loaded... Doug Yule is the guy I'm
thinking about that replaced him... He's on a few songs on 'Loaded' and
wrote everything on this one.
These were recent acquistions by me.. I had never heard them 'back then'...
I LOVED 'White Light/White Heat'. But, I was surprised at how good these
last two were... Great songs...
Doug Yule was in the Velvets for years before Lou Reed left, and he
nauturally too Lou's place since he was able to sing and play
everything. The Velvets went to England, and apparantly the manager
sent the rest of them back to the US to secure the rights to the VU
name, and that's the reason Yule recorded "Squeeze" by himself. It is
absolutely a Velvet Underground record though, as these songs were
written, arranged, and some played live with the "New Velvet
Underground" years before "Squeeze" was released.
These live shows have been documented on, and can be heard on the
Japanese boxset "Final VU" which contains four live shows from 1971 -
1973, including the last show I think.
What do you think of Squeeze? I know a lot of people reject it as a VU
album, but it's definitely my favorite, it's so happy sounding and
catchy. It's at LEAST as good as the four albums that came before it,
and certainly better than "White Light/White Heat" would you agree?
I bought the "Squeeze" record on vinyl 20 years ago or so, and though I
always liked Doug Yule's stand in vocals on "Loaded" (though I'd have
prefered Lou on them) I never could get much interest up and maybe
listened to the entire record once or twice... musically and lyrically
it just doesn't come off as VU... imo Lou reed was irreplaceable, and
about as useless as continuing the Doors without Morrison.

I still have the record, but long since lost turntable access so can't
refresh my memory on it... has it ever been reissued on CD, or are
there any Mp3s of the songs? I'd like to give it another shot.

Do you remember that Doug Yule returned to tour with Reed during the
"Sally Can't Dance" era... and legends has it after Reed was knocked
out with a brick during a German show, Yule supposedly wore a kinky
blonde wig and sunglasses and actually /played/ Lou Reed for a show?

I think Lester Bangs wrote about this back in the day...

I came on board with Rock And Roll Animal in 1974, btw, and have been
along for the wild ride ever since!

--
"Hasty Pudding" by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone)
Recorded at SoHo
Columbus, GA 31907
June 16, 2006
Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars.
Video by Janis Petersen


Greybeard Cavalier
Recorded at The Vault
Columbus, GA 31901
June 13, 2006
Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
"Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
Video by Doug Cole:


"I realise that the concept of their (sic) being stuff other than
unspeakable shit which actually SELLS must be strange to you..."
-Rob "Mush-Mouth" Evans slaps himself again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram
The Chris
2006-06-29 00:03:26 UTC
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Post by w***@gmail.com
I bought the "Squeeze" record on vinyl 20 years ago or so, and though
I always liked Doug Yule's stand in vocals on "Loaded" (though I'd
have prefered Lou on them) I never could get much interest up and
maybe listened to the entire record once or twice... musically and
lyrically it just doesn't come off as VU... imo Lou reed was
irreplaceable, and about as useless as continuing the Doors without
Morrison.
I still have the record, but long since lost turntable access so can't
refresh my memory on it... has it ever been reissued on CD, or are
there any Mp3s of the songs? I'd like to give it another shot.
Do you remember that Doug Yule returned to tour with Reed during the
"Sally Can't Dance" era... and legends has it after Reed was knocked
out with a brick during a German show, Yule supposedly wore a kinky
blonde wig and sunglasses and actually /played/ Lou Reed for a show?
I think Lester Bangs wrote about this back in the day...
I came on board with Rock And Roll Animal in 1974, btw, and have been
along for the wild ride ever since!
NEver heard that story.... As for Lou's solo stuff... I have 90% of it...
There are a lot of wild rides... I'm JUST about to buy an '83 GPz Motorcyle
because of my love for 'New Sensations' :)

Don't you like 'Transformer' - or the first album?
Will Dockery
2006-06-29 18:18:04 UTC
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Post by The Chris
Post by w***@gmail.com
I bought the "Squeeze" record on vinyl 20 years ago or so, and though
I always liked Doug Yule's stand in vocals on "Loaded" (though I'd
have prefered Lou on them) I never could get much interest up and
maybe listened to the entire record once or twice... musically and
lyrically it just doesn't come off as VU... imo Lou Reed was
irreplaceable, and about as useless as continuing the Doors without
Morrison.
I still have the record, but long since lost turntable access so can't
refresh my memory on it... has it ever been reissued on CD, or are
there any Mp3s of the songs? I'd like to give it another shot.
Do you remember that Doug Yule returned to tour with Reed during the
"Sally Can't Dance" era... and legend has it after Reed was knocked
out with a brick during a German show, Yule supposedly wore a kinky
blonde wig and sunglasses and actually /played/ Lou Reed for a show?
I think Lester Bangs wrote about this back in the day...
I came on board with Rock And Roll Animal in 1974, btw, and have been
along for the wild ride ever since!
NEver heard that story....
Not saying that it's true, or partially true, at best... and something
comes to mind about a problem in Buffalo... all 30+ year old memories
from reading Creem Magazine.

Yule did tour with Reed around Spring/Summer 1975 right after SCD and
just before the whole Metal Machine Music fiasco... almost certainly
archived by Google someplace.
Post by The Chris
As for Lou's solo stuff... I have 90% of it...
There are a lot of wild rides... I'm JUST about to buy an '83 GPz Motorcyle
because of my love for 'New Sensations' :)
Don't you like 'Transformer' - or the first album?
"Transformer" is a masterpiece, yeah... and "Walk On The Wild Side":

I'll never forget the smoky overcast afternoon in 1972 when I first
heard that perfect bass riff echo from the car radio, and some cat
sounding like a limp wristed Johnny Cash speak-singing:

"Holly came from Miami F.L.A..."

A top-ten hit in the "Deep South", and 1970s Shadowville would never be
the same.

But it was RARA that really put LR into the mainstream of garage guitar
kids, and the "Sweet Jane" riff was as all-important as the "Smoke On
The Water" riff.

The first album? Good songs, but the arrangements and backup are a
"noble mistake", in my opinion... "Berlin" and "Coney Island Baby" are
two all-time favorites, still endlessly listenable even now.

--
"Hasty Pudding" by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone)
Recorded at SoHo
Columbus, GA 31907
June 16, 2006
Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars.
Video by Janis Petersen
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc

Greybeard Cavalier
Recorded at The Vault
Columbus, GA 31901
June 13, 2006
Vocals: Will Dockery. Music: The Shadowville Allstars. Based on
"Greybeard Cavalier" by Will Dockery, 0x0000 and Brian Fowler.
Video by Doug Cole:
http://youtu.be/r6BGlXmtzE8

"I realise that the concept of their (sic) being stuff other than
unspeakable shit which actually SELLS must be strange to you..."
-Rob "Mush-Mouth" Evans slaps himself again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/stage/poets/robevanspoem.ram

The Space Boss
2006-06-29 00:48:43 UTC
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Post by w***@gmail.com
I bought the "Squeeze" record on vinyl 20 years ago or so, and though I
always liked Doug Yule's stand in vocals on "Loaded" (though I'd have
prefered Lou on them) I never could get much interest up and maybe
listened to the entire record once or twice... musically and lyrically
it just doesn't come off as VU... imo Lou reed was irreplaceable, and
about as useless as continuing the Doors without Morrison.
Wow, I wouldn't go THAT far. Mr. Yule held his own on Squeeze, it's my
favorite Velvets record.
Post by w***@gmail.com
I still have the record, but long since lost turntable access so can't
refresh my memory on it... has it ever been reissued on CD, or are
there any Mp3s of the songs? I'd like to give it another shot.
There ARE MP3's, but they are very, very difficult to find...
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