Discussion:
LITTLE JACK: my take on the song's meaning
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The Space Boss
2006-08-18 04:23:43 UTC
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Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.

I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"

What do you think?
Will Dockery
2006-08-19 14:53:07 UTC
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Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Why not post the lyrics here... or better yet an Mp3 link?

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
Video by Janis Petersen:

Will Dockery
2006-08-19 15:27:49 UTC
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Well I didn't find "Little Jack", but I did find Doug Yule's "Sweet
Caroline" and "Dopey Joe":

"Sweet Caroline":
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/03%20Caroline.mp3

"Dopey Joe":
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/05%20Dopey%20Joe.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/03/the_velvet_undergounds_squeeze_1.html

"...I think it is time to extend the debate to the masses on another
album that many people are unable to listen to: The Velvet
Underground's "Squeeze." Squeeze is the infamous "last" Velvet
Underground album, released after all original members save for Doug
Yule had gone their separate ways. It is long out of print, and was
available only on vinyl, copies of which sell for around 40 to 60
dollars on ebay. This super rare status of the album by one of the most
name-droppable bands of all time makes me positive that there is at
least one person out there who have assumed the contratian position
that Squeeze is the Velvet Underground's greatest work..."

"...If there are indeed people out there who believe this, it should be
noted right off the bat that they are wrong. However, I feel like the
album is not an outright disgrace. Towards the end of the Velvet
Undergrounds career, their sound shifted immensely as members other
than Lou Reed or John Cale got involved. I think this is a good thing,
as the world needs more "Sweet Janes" and "Rock and Rolls" and less
"The Gifts." The album Loaded features several prominent songs where
Doug Yule sings, and much of Squeeze sounds like it could have come
from the same sessions that produced Loaded's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" or
"New Age."

"...So Yule obviously had the "generic late era Velvet Undergound"
sound thing down, all the way to the backing Lou Reed style vocals on
songs like "Caroline" and "Friends." But if you look at the credits for
Loaded, the wrting is still all Lou Reed, (he shares credit on only one
song.) Yule could write a catchy sounding tune, but songs such as the
Rock and Roll/Sweet Jane sequel creatively titled "Jack & Jane" and the
idiocy of "Dopey Joe" demonstrate his struggles with lyrics. Taken as a
whole album, the mediocrity of the album can be a bit underwhelming,
but if these songs had been included on the Peel Slowly and See box
set, or the deluxe edition of Loaded, I bet that few people would be
able to identify them as outliers..."

"...But I think that the debate deserves to be a bit more widespread
than just what I think. Last.fm statistics show that between 60 and 120
people have listened to the songs from Squeeze. Compare that to the
more than 20,000 people who have listened to other VU songs such as
"Heroin," "I'm Waiting For The Man" or even "Sunday Morning." That's
why I have put this zip file of the MP3s from Squeeze up on the site. I
believe they are a vinyl rip, but the quality is acceptable, and I
don't believe that you'll be able to find a better digital copy. So
download, take a listen to what Doug Yule hath wrought and once you've
heard for yourself, head on down to the record store and tell that
ultra-hip clerk that you're finally calling his bullshit."

Posted by Conor on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Maybe "Little Jack" is out there somewhere, as well...

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
Video by Janis Petersen:
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc
the messenjah
2006-08-19 15:30:01 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Well I didn't find "Little Jack", but I did find Doug Yule's "Sweet
Sounds good...

http://skywriter.diaryland.com/060819_43.html
Post by Will Dockery
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/03%20Caroline.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/05%20Dopey%20Joe.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/03/the_velvet_undergounds_squeeze_1.html
"...I think it is time to extend the debate to the masses on another
album that many people are unable to listen to: The Velvet
Underground's "Squeeze." Squeeze is the infamous "last" Velvet
Underground album, released after all original members save for Doug
Yule had gone their separate ways. It is long out of print, and was
available only on vinyl, copies of which sell for around 40 to 60
dollars on ebay. This super rare status of the album by one of the most
name-droppable bands of all time makes me positive that there is at
least one person out there who have assumed the contratian position
that Squeeze is the Velvet Underground's greatest work..."
"...If there are indeed people out there who believe this, it should be
noted right off the bat that they are wrong. However, I feel like the
album is not an outright disgrace. Towards the end of the Velvet
Undergrounds career, their sound shifted immensely as members other
than Lou Reed or John Cale got involved. I think this is a good thing,
as the world needs more "Sweet Janes" and "Rock and Rolls" and less
"The Gifts." The album Loaded features several prominent songs where
Doug Yule sings, and much of Squeeze sounds like it could have come
from the same sessions that produced Loaded's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" or
"New Age."
"...So Yule obviously had the "generic late era Velvet Undergound"
sound thing down, all the way to the backing Lou Reed style vocals on
songs like "Caroline" and "Friends." But if you look at the credits for
Loaded, the wrting is still all Lou Reed, (he shares credit on only one
song.) Yule could write a catchy sounding tune, but songs such as the
Rock and Roll/Sweet Jane sequel creatively titled "Jack & Jane" and the
idiocy of "Dopey Joe" demonstrate his struggles with lyrics. Taken as a
whole album, the mediocrity of the album can be a bit underwhelming,
but if these songs had been included on the Peel Slowly and See box
set, or the deluxe edition of Loaded, I bet that few people would be
able to identify them as outliers..."
"...But I think that the debate deserves to be a bit more widespread
than just what I think. Last.fm statistics show that between 60 and 120
people have listened to the songs from Squeeze. Compare that to the
more than 20,000 people who have listened to other VU songs such as
"Heroin," "I'm Waiting For The Man" or even "Sunday Morning." That's
why I have put this zip file of the MP3s from Squeeze up on the site. I
believe they are a vinyl rip, but the quality is acceptable, and I
don't believe that you'll be able to find a better digital copy. So
download, take a listen to what Doug Yule hath wrought and once you've
heard for yourself, head on down to the record store and tell that
ultra-hip clerk that you're finally calling his bullshit."
Posted by Conor on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Maybe "Little Jack" is out there somewhere, as well...
--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc
Will Dockery
2006-08-19 20:28:55 UTC
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Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
Well I didn't find "Little Jack", but I did find Doug Yule's "Sweet
Sounds good...
http://skywriter.diaryland.com/060819_43.html
I agree that "Squeeze" would have made a fine debut Doug Yule album,
and of course a terrible Velvet Underground ending... VU could survive
a lot, but no Lou Reed? Impossible. I bought "Squeeze" on vinyl many
years ago, never managed to make it through it all the way, but now
that Mp3s are surfacing, "Caroline" and "Dopey Joe", and I approach
them without thinking about the rediculous bogus VU baggage, and rather
as Doug Yule... they work for me.

Would be great if "Squeeze" could be reissued on CD as Doug Yule's
first and only solo record, maybe as Doug Yule's Velvet Underground,
with liner notes explaining things...
Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/03%20Caroline.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/05%20Dopey%20Joe.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/03/the_velvet_undergounds_squeeze_1.html
"...I think it is time to extend the debate to the masses on another
album that many people are unable to listen to: The Velvet
Underground's "Squeeze." Squeeze is the infamous "last" Velvet
Underground album, released after all original members save for Doug
Yule had gone their separate ways. It is long out of print, and was
available only on vinyl, copies of which sell for around 40 to 60
dollars on ebay. This super rare status of the album by one of the most
name-droppable bands of all time makes me positive that there is at
least one person out there who have assumed the contratian position
that Squeeze is the Velvet Underground's greatest work..."
"...If there are indeed people out there who believe this, it should be
noted right off the bat that they are wrong. However, I feel like the
album is not an outright disgrace. Towards the end of the Velvet
Undergrounds career, their sound shifted immensely as members other
than Lou Reed or John Cale got involved. I think this is a good thing,
as the world needs more "Sweet Janes" and "Rock and Rolls" and less
"The Gifts." The album Loaded features several prominent songs where
Doug Yule sings, and much of Squeeze sounds like it could have come
from the same sessions that produced Loaded's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" or
"New Age."
"...So Yule obviously had the "generic late era Velvet Undergound"
sound thing down, all the way to the backing Lou Reed style vocals on
songs like "Caroline" and "Friends." But if you look at the credits for
Loaded, the wrting is still all Lou Reed, (he shares credit on only one
song.) Yule could write a catchy sounding tune, but songs such as the
Rock and Roll/Sweet Jane sequel creatively titled "Jack & Jane" and the
idiocy of "Dopey Joe" demonstrate his struggles with lyrics. Taken as a
whole album, the mediocrity of the album can be a bit underwhelming,
but if these songs had been included on the Peel Slowly and See box
set, or the deluxe edition of Loaded, I bet that few people would be
able to identify them as outliers..."
"...But I think that the debate deserves to be a bit more widespread
than just what I think. Last.fm statistics show that between 60 and 120
people have listened to the songs from Squeeze. Compare that to the
more than 20,000 people who have listened to other VU songs such as
"Heroin," "I'm Waiting For The Man" or even "Sunday Morning." That's
why I have put this zip file of the MP3s from Squeeze up on the site. I
believe they are a vinyl rip, but the quality is acceptable, and I
don't believe that you'll be able to find a better digital copy. So
download, take a listen to what Doug Yule hath wrought and once you've
heard for yourself, head on down to the record store and tell that
ultra-hip clerk that you're finally calling his bullshit."
Posted by Conor on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Maybe "Little Jack" is out there somewhere, as well...
--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
Video by Janis Petersen:
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc
The Space Boss
2006-08-20 03:27:03 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
Well I didn't find "Little Jack", but I did find Doug Yule's "Sweet
Sounds good...
http://skywriter.diaryland.com/060819_43.html
I agree that "Squeeze" would have made a fine debut Doug Yule album,
and of course a terrible Velvet Underground ending... VU could survive
a lot, but no Lou Reed? Impossible. I bought "Squeeze" on vinyl many
years ago, never managed to make it through it all the way, but now
that Mp3s are surfacing, "Caroline" and "Dopey Joe", and I approach
them without thinking about the rediculous bogus VU baggage, and rather
as Doug Yule... they work for me.
Would be great if "Squeeze" could be reissued on CD as Doug Yule's
first and only solo record, maybe as Doug Yule's Velvet Underground,
with liner notes explaining things...
Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/03%20Caroline.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/05%20Dopey%20Joe.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/03/the_velvet_undergounds_squeeze_1.html
"...I think it is time to extend the debate to the masses on another
album that many people are unable to listen to: The Velvet
Underground's "Squeeze." Squeeze is the infamous "last" Velvet
Underground album, released after all original members save for Doug
Yule had gone their separate ways. It is long out of print, and was
available only on vinyl, copies of which sell for around 40 to 60
dollars on ebay. This super rare status of the album by one of the most
name-droppable bands of all time makes me positive that there is at
least one person out there who have assumed the contratian position
that Squeeze is the Velvet Underground's greatest work..."
"...If there are indeed people out there who believe this, it should be
noted right off the bat that they are wrong. However, I feel like the
album is not an outright disgrace. Towards the end of the Velvet
Undergrounds career, their sound shifted immensely as members other
than Lou Reed or John Cale got involved. I think this is a good thing,
as the world needs more "Sweet Janes" and "Rock and Rolls" and less
"The Gifts." The album Loaded features several prominent songs where
Doug Yule sings, and much of Squeeze sounds like it could have come
from the same sessions that produced Loaded's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" or
"New Age."
"...So Yule obviously had the "generic late era Velvet Undergound"
sound thing down, all the way to the backing Lou Reed style vocals on
songs like "Caroline" and "Friends." But if you look at the credits for
Loaded, the wrting is still all Lou Reed, (he shares credit on only one
song.) Yule could write a catchy sounding tune, but songs such as the
Rock and Roll/Sweet Jane sequel creatively titled "Jack & Jane" and the
idiocy of "Dopey Joe" demonstrate his struggles with lyrics. Taken as a
whole album, the mediocrity of the album can be a bit underwhelming,
but if these songs had been included on the Peel Slowly and See box
set, or the deluxe edition of Loaded, I bet that few people would be
able to identify them as outliers..."
"...But I think that the debate deserves to be a bit more widespread
than just what I think. Last.fm statistics show that between 60 and 120
people have listened to the songs from Squeeze. Compare that to the
more than 20,000 people who have listened to other VU songs such as
"Heroin," "I'm Waiting For The Man" or even "Sunday Morning." That's
why I have put this zip file of the MP3s from Squeeze up on the site. I
believe they are a vinyl rip, but the quality is acceptable, and I
don't believe that you'll be able to find a better digital copy. So
download, take a listen to what Doug Yule hath wrought and once you've
heard for yourself, head on down to the record store and tell that
ultra-hip clerk that you're finally calling his bullshit."
Posted by Conor on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Maybe "Little Jack" is out there somewhere, as well...
--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc
Here's a little piece of information for you all:
That guy who posted those two MP3's on his website can tell you
where to download the entire album in HIGH QUALITY MP3 format so you
can burn yourself an excellent copy of SQUEEZE. And BELIEVE ME, it will
be well worth your time, Squeeze - whether you think of it as a Doug
Yule LP or the VU, it matters not, it's still one of the greatest
albums ever.
Will Dockery
2006-08-20 03:44:37 UTC
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Post by The Space Boss
Post by Will Dockery
Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
Well I didn't find "Little Jack", but I did find Doug Yule's "Sweet
Sounds good...
http://skywriter.diaryland.com/060819_43.html
I agree that "Squeeze" would have made a fine debut Doug Yule album,
and of course a terrible Velvet Underground ending... VU could survive
a lot, but no Lou Reed? Impossible. I bought "Squeeze" on vinyl many
years ago, never managed to make it through it all the way, but now
that Mp3s are surfacing, "Caroline" and "Dopey Joe", and I approach
them without thinking about the rediculous bogus VU baggage, and rather
as Doug Yule... they work for me.
Would be great if "Squeeze" could be reissued on CD as Doug Yule's
first and only solo record, maybe as Doug Yule's Velvet Underground,
with liner notes explaining things...
Post by the messenjah
Post by Will Dockery
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/03%20Caroline.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/mp3/squeeze/05%20Dopey%20Joe.mp3
http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/03/the_velvet_undergounds_squeeze_1.html
"...I think it is time to extend the debate to the masses on another
album that many people are unable to listen to: The Velvet
Underground's "Squeeze." Squeeze is the infamous "last" Velvet
Underground album, released after all original members save for Doug
Yule had gone their separate ways. It is long out of print, and was
available only on vinyl, copies of which sell for around 40 to 60
dollars on ebay. This super rare status of the album by one of the most
name-droppable bands of all time makes me positive that there is at
least one person out there who have assumed the contratian position
that Squeeze is the Velvet Underground's greatest work..."
"...If there are indeed people out there who believe this, it should be
noted right off the bat that they are wrong. However, I feel like the
album is not an outright disgrace. Towards the end of the Velvet
Undergrounds career, their sound shifted immensely as members other
than Lou Reed or John Cale got involved. I think this is a good thing,
as the world needs more "Sweet Janes" and "Rock and Rolls" and less
"The Gifts." The album Loaded features several prominent songs where
Doug Yule sings, and much of Squeeze sounds like it could have come
from the same sessions that produced Loaded's "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" or
"New Age."
"...So Yule obviously had the "generic late era Velvet Undergound"
sound thing down, all the way to the backing Lou Reed style vocals on
songs like "Caroline" and "Friends." But if you look at the credits for
Loaded, the wrting is still all Lou Reed, (he shares credit on only one
song.) Yule could write a catchy sounding tune, but songs such as the
Rock and Roll/Sweet Jane sequel creatively titled "Jack & Jane" and the
idiocy of "Dopey Joe" demonstrate his struggles with lyrics. Taken as a
whole album, the mediocrity of the album can be a bit underwhelming,
but if these songs had been included on the Peel Slowly and See box
set, or the deluxe edition of Loaded, I bet that few people would be
able to identify them as outliers..."
"...But I think that the debate deserves to be a bit more widespread
than just what I think. Last.fm statistics show that between 60 and 120
people have listened to the songs from Squeeze. Compare that to the
more than 20,000 people who have listened to other VU songs such as
"Heroin," "I'm Waiting For The Man" or even "Sunday Morning." That's
why I have put this zip file of the MP3s from Squeeze up on the site. I
believe they are a vinyl rip, but the quality is acceptable, and I
don't believe that you'll be able to find a better digital copy. So
download, take a listen to what Doug Yule hath wrought and once you've
heard for yourself, head on down to the record store and tell that
ultra-hip clerk that you're finally calling his bullshit."
Posted by Conor on March 13, 2006 01:42 PM
Post by The Space Boss
Little Jack, from the obscure Velvet Underground LP, "Squeeze" is one
of my favorite VU tunes.
I believe the song is autobiographical: I think "Little Jack" is Doug
Yule as a child, and "Susie" was his mother. "Little old Jack, best
stay back, Susie keep away!!" - I believe this was saying that nobody
wanted anything to do with him due to his "dirty hands and feet", and
no one wanted anything to do with Susie, because of her "baggage"
What do you think?
Maybe "Little Jack" is out there somewhere, as well...
That guy who posted those two MP3's on his website can tell you
where to download the entire album in HIGH QUALITY MP3 format so you
can burn yourself an excellent copy of SQUEEZE. And BELIEVE ME, it will
be well worth your time, Squeeze - whether you think of it as a Doug
Yule LP or the VU, it matters not, it's still one of the greatest
albums ever.
"Sweet Caroline" and "Dopey Joe" are really growing on me... glad I
finally gave them an unbiased chance after all these years.

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
Video by Janis Petersen:
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc
The Space Boss
2006-08-20 04:51:33 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
"Sweet Caroline" and "Dopey Joe" are really growing on me... glad I
finally gave them an unbiased chance after all these years.
My favorite tracks from Squeeze are "Little Jack", "Sweet Caroline",
and "Send No Letter". Very "folksy" album, almost "grateful dead"
sounding. Ah... let's see, Lou Reed's "Sally Can't Dance" is also -
interestingly - basically a re-write of "Louise", about an a girl who's
"too old to get around" but "everybody knows she used to dance the
hoochie-coo, just can't shake it like she used to.."
Will Dockery
2006-08-20 05:21:13 UTC
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Post by The Space Boss
Post by Will Dockery
"Sweet Caroline" and "Dopey Joe" are really growing on me... glad I
finally gave them an unbiased chance after all these years.
My favorite tracks from Squeeze are "Little Jack", "Sweet Caroline",
and "Send No Letter". Very "folksy" album, almost "grateful dead"
sounding.
Yeah, I was reading some similat things in an interview with Yule
earlier today:

http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/yule2.html

Pat: One of the things I've thought about, it's funny how much the
Velvets at that point sound like the Grateful Dead.

Doug: You mean like a garage band?

Pat: Just that mid-tempo, I've had a few glasses of wine groove.
There's some very similar sounds there, that very laid back, casual
feel. It's intense, but somehow very restrained at the same time.

Doug: Part of it was the time, the zeitgeist. Music was for grooving
to, and the best thing that could happen to you when you played a
strange club or hall, was that people started to dance. That was always
good, it made you feel good. When we were at Max's, you had a few
beers, you got on stage and you played a set. We were doing three sets
a night, which is not a concert situation in the least- this was
happening 5 nights a week. We were a club band playing original stuff.
Doing all Velvets songs. So it was kind of laid back, just bang it out.
There wasn't the same kind of pressure there is when you go into a play
a concert. When you go into a 5,000 or 10,000 seat hall and you walk
out there and you're gonna do 45 or 50 minutes and that's all - you're
psyched, you're pumping right from the start. But when you're in a club
and you're gonna do 2 or 3 sets a night, 5 nights a week - you're
hanging out, you're relaxed, have another beer, play a song, whatever -
because otherwise you'll burn out. It's the same way with the Dead.
When the Dead goes on stage, they know they're gonna be there for a
while. (laughing) This is not a 40 minute set, blowing their heads off.
No, let's get mellow, we're gonna be here for awhile. Just relax,
otherwise you'll kill yourself.

Pat: The very first time I heard "Waiting For My Man" on the 1969 Live
album, I thought, 'hey, this sounds just like the Grateful Dead!' I
meant that it a good way. (laughing)
Post by The Space Boss
Ah... let's see, Lou Reed's "Sally Can't Dance" is also -
interestingly - basically a re-write of "Louise", about an a girl who's
"too old to get around" but "everybody knows she used to dance the
hoochie-coo, just can't shake it like she used to.."
And that was when Reed called him back, first to play bass on "Billy",
and then to tour with him... wonder if he might have had some influence
in writing these songs, as in the VU days?

--
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

The Ride (Combat Zone) by Shadowville All-Stars
Video by Janis Petersen:
http://youtu.be/9lZ3VAmNTWc

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